Post by: Virmir on August 01, 2010, 12:24:00 AM
Like I've seen a few artists do, I'm going to make a deck of playing cards. Just your standard deck of 54 cards (4 suits + 2 jokers)-- That tarot stuff looks cool, but I'm not familiar with any of it. [;) Every single card is going to be a face card and feature a different character, much like this:
http://gallery.virmir.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1684
I intend to get this deck printed and sell it. I've found a few sites that offer this service, so it's just a matter of making a few cards to send in as demos and picking the best one. [:) I'm leaning towards one that offers a print-on-demand service much like Zazzle, but there's another where I can buy in bulk affordability that looks good too. (Though I'd have to ship myself, and that'd be a pain. So not too sure on that one.)
Now here comes the fun part. Half of this deck is going to be my characters, and I'm going to open up the other half to the CF community to submit their own characters. That's 26 of your characters I will be including. [:)
The suits are likely going to look like this:
Spades - Virmirs: All Virmir variations, plus a few characters from my written stories
Clubs - Crimson Flag: The Crimson Flag cast, as drawn by me
Diamonds - CF Community Foxes and Canids: Foxes and Canid characters/fursonas
Hearts - CF Community Cats and Others: Kitties and their non-canid counterparts
May tweak the last two based on response I get here. (I was originally going to make one suit Epic Battle, but not enough characters have been introduced there yet to avoid spoilers. [;)) Also, have ideas for the Jokers, but we'll see... [;)
Submissions are closed! Thanks for submitting, folks. [:)
Please note that I'm selling this deck, and by posting below you give me rights to sell artwork of your character (as drawn by me) for the purposes of this deck only. Also... don't freak out/get depressed if I make you a 2 or something. 2's can be a lifesaver in black jack, anyway. [;)
EDIT: Also note that I'm not taking requests on who gets what number. I'll decide that. [;)
EDIT 2: Also forgot to mention that there's a chance I'll be reusing some artwork I've already done. 80% of this or so will probably be new drawings though.
EDIT 3: Ooops, yes, please post references if I haven't drawn you or your character before. [;)
Spades (Virmirs and gang)
A: Virmir (http://virmir.artspots.com/image/46942/ace-of-spades)
K: The King (Epic Battle) (http://virmir.artspots.com/image/47116/king-of-spades)
Q: Lucile (http://virmir.artspots.com/image/46943/queen-of-spades)
J: Virmir (Metamor Keep) (http://virmir.artspots.com/image/46944/jack-of-spades)
10: Virbot (http://virmir.artspots.com/image/46945/ten-of-spades)
9: Virumiru (http://virmir.artspots.com/image/46948/nine-of-spades)
8: Virmir-taur (http://virmir.artspots.com/image/46949/eight-of-spades)
7: Gramps (Metamor Keep, feral fox) (http://virmir.artspots.com/image/47134/seven-of-spades)
6: The Fennec (Fennec and the Naga) (http://virmir.artspots.com/image/47201/six-of-spades)
5: Lucile (MK, feral fox) (http://virmir.artspots.com/image/47312/five-of-spades)
4: Turstin (Downward) (http://virmir.artspots.com/image/47333/four-of-spades)
3: Gavin and Mara (Reyan Saga) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/three_of_spades)
2: Feral Virmir (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/two_of_spades)
Clubs (Crimson Flag)
A: Julian (http://virmir.artspots.com/image/46959/ace-of-clubs)
K: Lucian (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/king_of_clubs)
Q: Avelina (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/queen_of_clubs)
J: Bryce (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/jack_of_clubs)
10: Emiline (Dragon) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/ten_of_clubs)
9: Ludovic (http://virmir.artspots.com/image/46950/nine-of-clubs)
8: The Fen Assassin (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/eight_of_clubs)
7: Voltar (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/seven_of_clubs)
6: Sierra (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/six_of_clubs)
5: Lucile (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/five_of_clubs)
4: Sierra's Summon (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/four_of_clubs)
3: Giles (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/three_of_clubs)
2: Emiline (Fox) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/two_of_clubs)
Diamonds (Foxes/Canids)
A: Tvorsk (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/ace_of_diamonds)
K: Hanse (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/king_of_diamonds) (Donnie)
Q: Iasha (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/queen_of_diamonds) (Donnie)
J: Dracula (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/jack_of_diamonds) (Tod, Dracula)
10: Kenku (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/ten_of_diamonds)
9: Jonas (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/nine_of_diamonds)
8: Fizzie (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/eight_of_diamonds)
7: Dragyn (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/seven_of_diamonds)
6: Dr. Richardson (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/six_of_diamonds) (Digital Vulpine)
5: Medik Jackal (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/five_of_diamonds)
4: Fen Wolf (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/four_of_diamonds)
3: 2dogsandaDJ (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/three_of_diamonds)
2: Donnie (Overgrown Lands) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/two_of_diamonds)
Hearts (Cats/Others)
A: Ethaniel (Pontos, OL Armor) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/ace_of_hearts)
K: Prince Kai (Epic Battle) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/king_of_hearts)
Q: Kayla Adin (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/queen_of_hearts)
J: Ginger (Tod, Ekwara) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/jack_of_hearts)
10: Geo (Traxer) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/ten_of_hearts)
9: Alias (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/nine_of_hearts)
8: Stormkit (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/eight_of_hearts)
7: Yurodivy (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/seven_of_hearts)
6: Feathertail (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/six_of_hearts)
5: Geary (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/five_of_hearts)
4: Beastling (Dragyn) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/four_of_hearts)
3: Ethaniel (Pontos, Metamor Keep) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/three_of_hearts)
2: West (Tod, Ekwara) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/two_of_hearts)
Jokers
Red Joker: Radioactive Toast (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/red_joker)
Black Joker: VirMech, Piloted by Donnie (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/black_joker)
All completed cards gallery (http://art.by.virmir.com/gallery/5)
Post by: Fizzie on August 01, 2010, 12:26:32 AM
ohh or a joker would be nice to XP
Post by: Feathertail on August 01, 2010, 12:27:55 AM
Post by: Shifting Sands on August 01, 2010, 12:29:34 AM
And I'd gladly be in it, but I don't really have a solid, set-in-stone form. So... I guess I can either bug you about it, or you can bug me about it! |:)
Post by: KaiAdin on August 01, 2010, 12:30:20 AM
mm Well I dont have many characters per se.. can I submit myself? ]:) (do I need references.. you draw me the most!)
Edit: Mew! yea that includes Kayla too if ya want! ]:)
Post by: Pontos on August 01, 2010, 12:30:30 AM
>_>
So yeah, If you want you can use my main character/fursona |:)
I haven't fully developed any other character enough to consider posting it here, so only Ethaniel.
Post by: Geary on August 01, 2010, 12:32:19 AM
Post by: Fireboy224 on August 01, 2010, 12:33:15 AM
Post by: Tvorsk on August 01, 2010, 06:24:51 AM
Post by: Geo Holms on August 01, 2010, 07:34:33 AM
Post by: Jonas on August 01, 2010, 11:33:17 AM
Post by: EmperorDJ on August 01, 2010, 12:28:25 PM
Post by: Digital Vulpine on August 01, 2010, 01:43:58 PM
Post by: Fen on August 01, 2010, 03:03:42 PM
Might I formally request one of the joker cards be a sandwich though? You don't need to if you don't want, but it would be really cool.
at least I think so anyway.
Post by: William Swiftfoot on August 01, 2010, 04:31:40 PM
First, of course, my Fursona, Kenku:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3464435
Second, my Foxgon, Rigel:
http://edenhall.deviantart.com/art/Present-for-Joo-kenku-122763462?q=favby:Kenku/7643226&qo=2
Third, my young Kitsune Character, Mary:
http://thanoize.deviantart.com/art/Commission-Kenku-112928561?q=favby:Kenku/7643226&qo=10
and fourth, my WildRabbits character, Tallgrass
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4062607
Use who you think will help fill out the deck ^^
Post by: Donnie on August 01, 2010, 04:35:16 PM
Twin Hanse pic. Basically this will work perfectly for those pesky jack-king cards. a perfectly mirrorable pose, possibly with a different funny/random face. I'll see if I can draw this up to see what it'd look like. OL Hanse is preferred as his clothes are nice and flowy.
Innocence Donnie - OL or Feral Donnie playing with a single shape or tinkering. Example: Feral Donnie clinging to an ace or nomming it, OL Donnie slapping a ton of gears and random slabs of wood to whatever background, forming the shapes or adding to it. I am a bit off in the mind right now so I will see more later.
And since you 'asked' Virmir, an Iasha would be neat for a queen, you wouldn't want a big manly cougar for a queen card would you? [:P. Honestly the pose I am unsure of, but I am a fan of those mirrored poses for the big cards so it'd at least have to be one. I could partially design it if you desire [;)
Also I know how much you like Greg... so he's free for all too [;). Any form is okay.
Reference time!
OL Hanse - Solid body but a terribly light heart. Hanse can rarely be seen not grinning or in another sort of positive attitude. When he gets stressed... it is another story. Never gives up hope until... well all hope is lost! Kiba says a good comparison is Guy Sensei from Naruto... which I felt is kinda odd o_o but fitting. Haha.
3D (Adventurer's outfit) http://vengencemkii.deviantart.com/art/Disturbance-Battle-171899469
This outfit has short sleeves, a shoulder and thigh cape. Very flowy. If you use this he'd have an artifact in hand.
Level 100 (Supreme Honor Garb) http://vengencemkii.deviantart.com/art/Do-Not-Avert-those-Eyes-158732120
The cut sleeves are even farther up and LONGER than ever! Complete with a thigh cape, this Hanse is ultra flowy and will always carry that huge blue sword. He can have his serious face on here but a grin is always welcome!
Standard http://vengencemkii.deviantart.com/art/Smile-for-the-Camera-Silray-155045832
This Hanse is... average. Normal grin. Nothing exciting >_> boooo
OL Donnie http://vengencemkii.deviantart.com/art/Believe-and-he-Shall-Make-it-155097170
Key words: Exceedingly Cute. He's small and adorable, nothing more =3.
Feral Donnie http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/096/4/3/Vengence_Icon_by_nishastar.png
Key Words: Even MORE cute than anthro version!
Iasha http://www.furaffinity.net/view/2838032
High class, thin, pretty. Also lots of guns =3. Preferably a wheel lock musket
Orthographic http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4000307
Sketch http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3179/iashasketch.jpg
GREG!!!
http://gallery.virmir.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1329&g2_serialNumber=6
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1872889/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1870967/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1870680/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1870579/
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/3683/gregsuffer.jpg
Since Diamonds is red... I'd say go Red form, but go nuts. Remember, Greg is officially a true Gray Fox now, so he has black tail and ears. He's like you now!
Post by: PrincessHotcakes on August 01, 2010, 04:39:16 PM
Would a breadstuff break the pattern? I'd ask but it seems it might be slightly... odd considering the rest of the cards are going to be fuzzies.
Post by: Geo Holms on August 01, 2010, 04:56:35 PM
Ronts - Bearish-dogish fuzzy dementor (emotion scavenger) http://traxer.deviantart.com/art/Peeps-and-a-Guillotine-124059654
Veat - Dream Weaver, fuzzy blue dragonish thing. http://traxer.deviantart.com/art/Veat-and-Veat-137567608 (one on left)
Rex - Fox of leather letter jacket and bloody sense of humor. http://traxer.deviantart.com/art/Soulless-Puppy-Dog-Eyes-157607829
Fluff - Monster-under-the-bed, plush penguin and monster forms...never use as chew toy http://traxer.deviantart.com/art/Stalking-90485685
BJ - Fuzzy six-armed face-hugger. Need I say more? (same as Rex's)
Post by: Stormkit on August 01, 2010, 10:55:57 PM
/me is insanely curious about the jokers btw...
Post by: Pontos on August 01, 2010, 10:57:53 PM
ace being both the highest and lowest card simultaneously representing my intelligent spacing out[/me]Or you being totally random and never being the same two days in a row :P
Post by: Stormkit on August 01, 2010, 11:02:51 PM
Post by: Virmir on August 02, 2010, 03:08:27 PM
Also, black suits will have a blue-ish border as shown here, while red suits will have a red one.
Full list of spades and clubs has been tacked on to first topic. Still deciding on the other two suits. [:)
Post by: Yurodivy on August 02, 2010, 06:41:07 PM
Post by: Dragyn on August 02, 2010, 08:37:07 PM
Count me in, you can use my 'sona (either adult, as in group shot, or cutesy, as in "I Feel...").
Feel free to use Kheros or Beastling. I'd love to see them show up in a deck of cards.
References:
'Sona: Adult (http://beastling.xepher.net/canon/gallery/galleries/Canon_Fodder/Dragynwulf.png) Younger (http://beastling.xepher.net/canon/gallery/galleries/Canon_Fodder/I_Feel_Adorable.png)
Kheros: Bio Page (badly in need of an update) (http://beastling.xepher.net/PE/images/Kheros.gif) Weird, stylized thing (http://beastling.xepher.net/images/misc/miniKherosGrin.png)
Beastling: Color (http://beastling.xepher.net/Extra_ChaosBeastling_800x600.html) Art Trade (http://beastling.xepher.net/canon/gallery/galleries/Canon_Fodder/toVirmir.png)
Looking around, I have to wonder why I don't have a more recent picture of Kheros...
Post by: Virmir on August 02, 2010, 11:01:13 PM
One more for tonight. [;)
Thanks for the submissions, people! I'm going to leave this open until this weekend or so, then decide. [:)
Post by: Fizzie on August 03, 2010, 03:18:07 AM
Post by: Tvorsk on August 03, 2010, 07:17:11 AM
now all we need is a EPIC logo to be on the back of the card ^_^
You mean, like these?
(http://urocyon.virmir.com/tvorsk/symbol_red.png) (http://urocyon.virmir.com/tvorsk/symbol_gray.png) (http://urocyon.virmir.com/tvorsk/symbol_glow.png)
Also, Virmir... now that I'm looking at the card... did we actually saw a finished, colored Julian drawn by you ever before?!
Post by: PrincessHotcakes on August 03, 2010, 11:08:36 AM
Also, Virmir... now that I'm looking at the card... did we actually saw a finished, colored Julian drawn by you ever before?!
I don't think we have, and now in such a sweet pose! ]:)
Post by: Stormkit on August 04, 2010, 04:00:02 AM
Holy farsnizzledons, that IS epic!now all we need is a EPIC logo to be on the back of the card ^_^You mean, like these?
(http://urocyon.virmir.com/tvorsk/symbol_red.png) (http://urocyon.virmir.com/tvorsk/symbol_gray.png) (http://urocyon.virmir.com/tvorsk/symbol_glow.png)
Post by: Pontos on August 04, 2010, 04:29:22 PM
Also, Virmir... now that I'm looking at the card... did we actually saw a finished, colored Julian drawn by you ever before?!Nope, first time he's drawn Julian. At least if we don't count that first try at drawing the comic by himself from long ago |:P
Post by: Virmir on August 08, 2010, 09:12:38 PM
9/54!
Actually I'll hold off on finalizing the other suits for a bit more since I've plenty to work on now, anyway. [;)
Post by: LurkingWolf on August 09, 2010, 12:08:49 PM
Post by: Virmir on August 09, 2010, 05:02:50 PM
10/54 [;)
Post by: Jonas on August 11, 2010, 03:14:58 PM
Post by: Tvorsk on August 11, 2010, 03:33:43 PM
It's still better to keep the corner number this way, as it makes for easier reading of the card value, no matter which way up the card has been dealt to you.
Post by: Virmir on August 11, 2010, 06:33:35 PM
Anyway, next!
11/54 [:)
Post by: Kiba on August 11, 2010, 06:36:03 PM
Dunno if a raccoon is 'canid' or 'other' o_o
Post by: Tvorsk on August 12, 2010, 01:54:58 AM
Quote
Canidae is the biological family of carnivorous and omnivorous mammals that includes the wolves, foxes, jackals, coyotes, and the domestic dog; a member of this family is called a canid. The Canidae family is divided into the "wolf-like" and "dog-like" animals of the tribe Canini and the "foxes" of the tribe Vulpini. The two species of the basal Caninae are more primitive and do not fit into either tribe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procyonidae
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Procyonidae is a New World family of the order Carnivora. It includes the raccoons, coatis, kinkajous, olingos, ringtails and cacomistles. Procyonids inhabit a wide range of environments, and are generally omnivorous.
Post by: Stormkit on August 12, 2010, 03:10:02 AM
Quote from: Wikipedia
Suborder Caniformia ("dog-like")Yes, I believe you could file raccoons with canines.
* Family †Amphicyonidae: bear-dogs (9–37 mya)
* Family Canidae: dogs and allies; 37 species in 10 genera
* Infraorder Arctoidea
o Superfamily Ursoidea
+ Family †Hemicyonidae: (2-22 mya)
+ Family Ursidae: bears; 8 species in 5 genera
o Superfamily Musteloidea
+ Family Ailuridae: Red Panda; 1 species in 1 genus.
+ Family Mephitidae: skunks and stink badgers; 10 species in 4 genera
+ Family Mustelidae: weasels, martens, badgers, wolverines, minks, ferrets, and otters; 55 species in 24 genera
+ Family Procyonidae: raccoons and allies; 19 species in 6 genera
o Superfamily Pinnipedia
+ Family †Enaliarctidae: (23–20 mya?)
+ Family Odobenidae: walrus; 1 species in 1 genus
+ Family Otariidae: sea lions, eared seals, fur seals; 14 species in 7 genera
+ Family Phocidae: true seals; 19 species in 9 genera
Post by: Virmir on August 15, 2010, 05:25:55 PM
12/54!
Post by: Virmir on August 16, 2010, 04:55:54 PM
13/54 [:)
Post by: Alias on August 18, 2010, 11:09:36 PM
Post by: Stormkit on August 20, 2010, 12:26:00 AM
Racoons are not Canids. See Tvorsk's first link. [;)I dispute your (and his) logic with TASTY KITTENS! (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2620/4180039172_e01b2cbeb9_o.jpg)
Post by: Virmir on August 30, 2010, 06:05:27 PM
14/54
(Sorry, back on track now. [;))
Post by: Virmir on September 02, 2010, 11:32:58 PM
15/54!
Done with the spades! Will draw a back next. [;)
Post by: Stormkit on September 04, 2010, 02:29:59 AM
Post by: KaiAdin on September 04, 2010, 02:53:15 AM
Post by: Virmir on September 05, 2010, 02:08:49 PM
And the back!
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/card_back.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/card_back)
I'm now going to send the spades out for a test printing because I want to demo the quality of the printers I will likely go with, as well as make sure I'm not coloring too darkly, etc. Will work on more cards in the meantime, and will give an update as soon as those come in. [:)
Post by: Stormkit on September 05, 2010, 05:14:17 PM
Post by: LurkingWolf on September 07, 2010, 06:42:16 PM
Post by: EmperorDJ on September 08, 2010, 06:37:31 AM
Post by: Virmir on September 08, 2010, 06:10:03 PM
Two-for-one today!
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/king_of_clubs.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/king_of_clubs)(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/queen_of_clubs.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/queen_of_clubs)
17/54 [:)
Post by: Virmir on September 12, 2010, 05:39:40 PM
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/jack_of_clubs.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/jack_of_clubs)(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/ten_of_clubs.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/ten_of_clubs)
19/54!
Post by: Virmir on September 12, 2010, 10:43:40 PM
EDIT: Yes some people got more than one card, and some people got no cards. I chose out of what was available and picked the ones I wanted to draw most and include in my personal deck. So it's uneven. Nothing personal! I will give away more free art when this project is done, so check back soon. [:)
Post by: Stormkit on September 13, 2010, 04:21:27 AM
I'm mildly disappointed not to have made joker status, but I think I'm perfectly happy with a seven ^.^
Post by: Dragyn on September 13, 2010, 12:40:41 PM
Post by: Virmir on September 13, 2010, 05:52:19 PM
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/eight_of_clubs.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/eight_of_clubs)(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/seven_of_clubs.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/seven_of_clubs)
21/54!
Post by: Tvorsk on September 13, 2010, 05:59:57 PM
Post by: William Swiftfoot on September 13, 2010, 07:40:29 PM
Post by: Jonas on September 14, 2010, 01:58:39 PM
Post by: Virmir on September 15, 2010, 12:15:06 AM
22/54 [:)
Post by: Virmir on September 16, 2010, 09:11:26 PM
http://gallery.virmir.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1791
http://gallery.virmir.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1795
http://gallery.virmir.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1798
Overall, some mixed feelings. But most of it is stuff I can fix.
First, card quality is quite nice. You can definitely play with these without fear of damaging them. However they do not "feel" like normal playing cards. Think... the title deeds from a Monopoly set. [;) Still, they're toughly built and you'd still be able to play poker with them just fine.
I was kind of hoping for rounded corners... but they are square. Oh well.
As for the color quality.... you can see a just a bit of grain in flat colors if you look really hard, but it's nothing noticeable. A lot of the colors came out too dark unfortunately. This is mainly my fault, as I have my Tablet PC's colors set too bright apparently (this has been pointed out to me in the chat a few times). This is something I need to adjust on my end for all of my art, so I will be doing this this weekend, and then very likely adjust the colors for all of the cards-- especially the Virmir ones which need the most tweaking. (Also it could be the lighting in my bedroom, but my gray fur seems to have come out just a tad purplish... phooey. [;)) The Fennec is the brightest of the bunch and he looks awesome.
The borders on the front of the cards came out a tad too subtle. It looks like a solid color unless you look more closely. I think I'm going to fancy these up a bit.
The backs look awesome! I was a tad too hesitant to have content spill over into the borders, so I think the border on the edges came out a tad too big in the actual printing. I'm going to resize these so the borders are a bit smaller.
And finally, the HUGE facepaw moment...
Totally did NOT realize that I inverted the blasted numbers in the corners from where EVERY other playing card has them until I fanned them out in my hand and said, "Waaaaait a minute..." *facepaws*
So... will be swapping the numbers to opposite corners too. [;)
So in short, looks promising, just need to do a fair amount of work on my end. I'll make some changes this weekend and send out another test run. Probably going to have a ton of rejected cards lying around before I get everything juuuuust right. [;)
Post by: Tvorsk on September 17, 2010, 06:15:00 AM
On the other paw, Mara seems to have almost a fluorescent glow, but this might be caused by the lighting. Backs are epic... and GREAT. {;)
Said that, your images always seemed bright enough to me, tho might be that both of us have the screens set to hi-brightness and 6500K white temp.
Btw, you may want to email or otherwise ask if the printing company would be happier with a CMYK-colorspace images, as used for printing, and if so, switch Photoshop to that mode - IIRC it has a print proofing mode that warns you if you use colors outside of safely printable range... but of course, that's a complex function neither of us knows how to use properly, so... might not actually be so great of an idea. {:(
In any case, good lick! *slurps*
PS. Who cares about numbers being in opposite corners? Be Different! {;)
Post by: Jonas on September 17, 2010, 10:38:17 AM
Post by: Virmir on September 17, 2010, 01:37:53 PM
The printers need the files in RBG format.
As far as opposite corners, they look just fine until you fan them out in your hand... that's when I noticed. I'm used to having the number in the upper left, so instinctually place the cards so that corner is visible. Everyone who has ever played cards will do this as well, and it will infuriate them (myself included), if the numbers are on the opposite sides. [;)
Post by: LurkingWolf on September 17, 2010, 02:47:54 PM
Post by: Virmir on September 17, 2010, 09:25:49 PM
Post by: Virmir on September 19, 2010, 04:33:55 PM
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/spades_A.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/spades_A)
I overwrote the old ones, so hit refresh if the old ones still show up (on art.by.virmir.com). Changes:
- Reduced border size on the card backs, so detail is a bit larger.
- Flipped the blasted numbers.
- Doubled the size of the detail on the borders of card fronts (it looked like nearly a solid color on the test print)
- Tweaked brightness, contrast, and tint on all the images. In general, they're all lighter. This is just a guess based how the printed cards look in my hand. Will be sending a few variations of two or three cards in to get it just right too.
Next step is to order test deck number two, and then back to drawing. [:)
Post by: Virmir on September 19, 2010, 11:22:55 PM
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/five_of_clubs.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/five_of_clubs)
23/54!
Post by: Virmir on September 20, 2010, 06:19:32 PM
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/three_of_clubs.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/three_of_clubs)
24/54!
Post by: Virmir on September 22, 2010, 10:54:18 PM
25/54!
Starting in on the diamonds next. Will pull a few stock images, but will be mostly new art. [;)
Also good news on the rounded corners. The printing company said it was a mistake due to their older printing suppliers they are dropping and refunded my money. So all cards will have rounded corners. Plus I got a free test print, so it all turned out well. [;)
Post by: Dragyn on September 23, 2010, 01:39:42 AM
Also, can't wait for the rest of these. (Who's the skipped number 4, I wonder...)
Post by: Virmir on September 23, 2010, 11:17:15 PM
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/eight_of_diamonds.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/eight_of_diamonds)(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/six_of_diamonds.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/six_of_diamonds)(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/four_of_diamonds.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/four_of_diamonds)
Older drawing style (gah, old feet!), but still like these enough to use them. [:) Rest of diamonds will be new art.
28/54!
Post by: Jonas on September 24, 2010, 08:56:30 AM
Also, why not try redrawing the feet?
Post by: LurkingWolf on September 24, 2010, 11:50:24 AM
Post by: Virmir on September 25, 2010, 11:59:53 PM
And Tvorsk for tonight. [:)
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/ace_of_diamonds.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/ace_of_diamonds)
29/54!
Post by: Virmir on September 26, 2010, 10:17:18 PM
Will do Donnie's two tomorrow, hopefully. [;)
30/54!
Post by: Virmir on September 27, 2010, 09:48:52 PM
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/king_of_diamonds.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/king_of_diamonds) (http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/queen_of_diamonds.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/queen_of_diamonds)
32/54!
(Phew!)
Post by: Donnie on September 27, 2010, 10:20:56 PM
Post by: Virmir on October 02, 2010, 01:03:59 PM
Okay, second test printing is in!
Like last time, some issues. Here are some pics.
http://gallery.virmir.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1819
http://gallery.virmir.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1828
http://gallery.virmir.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1822
http://gallery.virmir.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1825
As mentioned a few posts ago, the provider (The Game Crafter), ditched their old printing service/methods and got a new one. Therefore these cards look like they have been printed by a totally different company.
Good things:
- They "feel" more like playing cards. A bit thinner perhaps, but these feel more like something I'd play poker with, and not title-deed-esque like the old batch. I rather like this. [:) They are still a bit thinner, and less tough than normal playing cards, mind you, but still quite sturdy.
- Rounded corners!
- The print quality is better. Comparing the old and new cards side-by-side, the old ones look a tad blurry now. Yay. [:)
- My adjustments to the border look great. [:)
Some reservations:
- As I tried to capture in the bottom two pics above, some cards are very obviously not centered well. I'd say about a third of the 26 cards I had printed make me shift my eyes to various degrees.
- Some cards have sort of a rough edge to them. It's not like they'll fray or anything, but there's just this weird crease to a few of them.
- The cards arrived just slightly bent... I think it might be due to how they were squished in the packaging. I am currently squishing them underneath a giant heavy jar of penny, so will report how well they flatten out. [;)
- This printer is even darker than the last... I'm going to have to lighten these up even more for the next run. Not a huge deal.
----
In short: I'm pleased except for the off-centering. It just plain looks bad, and looks to be a random thing. I followed the rules when making the templates, and the cut edges are indeed outside the "safe zone", which means that even the off-center cards are inside the acceptable margin of error according the template. I'm not entirely sure I like this margin of error to be so large, so will think about this more.
One possible solution is to design a background with less obvious borders. I'm not really sure I want to do this though.
Thoughts and feedback appreciated. We shall see. [;)
Post by: Tvorsk on October 02, 2010, 01:09:33 PM
Post by: Virmir on October 03, 2010, 01:21:32 PM
The first print run was outsourced from The Game Crafter (TGC, who I'm currently dealing with), to a company called Superior Print On Demand (SPOD). TGC terminated their (apparently) brief relationship with their company, and are now back to printing their cards "in house".
Unfortunately, TGC is notoriously bad at getting the blasted things centered. They only guarantee the cards not to have anything cut off in the template's "safe zone". Which unfortunately is a fairly wide margin of error. This is a real shame because I *really* like everything else about their cards, and especially like how they will be sold directly from their site with no additional work from me once everything's all said and done.
However I have found SPOD's site, and I can order from them directly too. The main problem with them is that I will have to order batches to be shipped to me, and then I have to ship them myself.... this would be a major pain. Plus, looking at the original cards I got, I don't like they way the cards printed quite as much when compared to the latest batch, and they have square corners. On the plus side, they are capable of getting the things centered fairly well. (Looking at the first batch, there are some slight centering issues, but not nearly as bad as TGC's.)
The Plan
I am going to order a test deck from SPOD with a bunch of color variations to see if I can get them looking right. If they manage to impress me, I will consider ordering a "limited run" from them (maybe 15-20 decks or so, depending on interest) which I will sell and ship out personally.
I will also be ordering another test deck from TGC with adjustments to the cards for darkness. Assuming I like SPOD, TGC will be a "fall back" for people who don't mind the off-centering, or after I run out of cards from the limited run.
If I find another printer, will certainly try them as well. [;)
/me is going to have tons and tons of reject-cards lying around... [;)
Post by: Tvorsk on October 03, 2010, 01:24:09 PM
/me is going to have tons and tons of reject-cards lying around... [;)
Now you just need to find a way to use these... hmm, what about the "Weird Out the Brother" plan? {;)
Post by: Virmir on October 03, 2010, 03:37:12 PM
Post by: KaiAdin on October 03, 2010, 03:41:07 PM
Now you just need to find a way to use these... hmm, what about the "Weird Out the Brother" plan? {;)
I imagine something like from the first harry potter movie... cards flying in from every orifice of the house the next time he steps into Virmir Living room... Cards flying in EVERYWHERE! ]:)
ANyway... ack that sounds like a Pain in the behind Virmir... isnt there some *other* website offering to make cards at all? ]:(
Post by: LurkingWolf on October 03, 2010, 09:12:47 PM
Post by: Virmir on October 04, 2010, 10:41:45 PM
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/nine_of_diamonds.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/nine_of_diamonds)(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/seven_of_diamonds.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/seven_of_diamonds)
34/54!
Post by: Dragyn on October 05, 2010, 11:48:24 AM
Post by: Virmir on October 06, 2010, 12:40:38 AM
[:)
35/54!
Post by: Virmir on October 10, 2010, 12:27:28 PM
My order from SPOD came in *extremely* quickly. This pleases me. (TGC hasn't even shipped yet, as of this writing.)
New pictures!
http://gallery.virmir.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1837
http://gallery.virmir.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1840
Pictured are only about 1/3rd of the cards. I sent in three variations of most, and what is pictured is the set I like the best.
To be honest... I'm very surprised! These turned out quite nice.
- The blasted things are much better centered! There are some centering issues if you look for them, but they did a much better job than TCG.
- Corners are rounded, and the cards "feel" nice.
- Very few cards have a tiny errant dot of blue or red randomly on them... almost like an ink splatter or something. These are few and far between and barely noticeable, and I don't think this is a big deal.
In short... based on this printing, it looks to me that SPOD is my best bet to deliver a quality product. Unfortunately this means I will have to ship out orders myself, which as I mentioned before, would be a huge pain. I'm going to see how the next set of cards ordered from TGC comes back, and then make some decisions.
EDIT: BONUS QUESTION!
SPOD offers a custom tuck-box printing (i.e. a nice little box you can stick the cards in). This looks really cool. Do you guys think it'd be worth paying a few dollars more for this? Will probably only cost $2 more or so. [:)
Post by: Geary on October 10, 2010, 01:33:14 PM
Post by: KaiAdin on October 10, 2010, 01:36:38 PM
I don't see why not X3 It would be an awesome addition!
Post by: William Swiftfoot on October 10, 2010, 01:45:59 PM
Post by: Virmir on October 10, 2010, 02:10:56 PM
Post by: Virmir on October 10, 2010, 08:18:53 PM
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/ten_of_diamonds.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/ten_of_diamonds)
36/54!
Post by: Tvorsk on October 11, 2010, 04:18:28 AM
"Errant dot" sounds like they'd be using offset printing, and not be scrubbing the plates ideally clean in between... in any case, yay for centering! {:P
I shouldn't comment about the box... it'd probably look really nice, especially compared to "generic" one or complete lack of... but that's even more to the cost, and I wouldn't be able to pay for the deck either way.
Post by: Virmir on October 11, 2010, 10:49:59 AM
Also, it's amusing how vastly different these things look under different lighting. If I look at them by sunlight coming in through the window, they look fantastic. At night if I look at them under the light from my ceiling fan, my fur almost looks a tad purple-ish. [;)
Post by: Tvorsk on October 11, 2010, 10:57:01 AM
<smartail type="capt_obvious">And well, prints, as opposed to screens, work by blocking some wavelengths of light, and reflecting other ones; so if the light isn't Uniform White in the first place, color's influenced.</smartail>
Post by: KaiAdin on October 11, 2010, 03:43:57 PM
I say if it looks alright in day light.. just leave it as it is!
p.S: What is the bulb type for your ceiling fan anyway Virmir?
Post by: Virmir on October 11, 2010, 08:43:01 PM
I use those new-ish energy saver bulbs, with the swirly coils. [;) There's a frosted glass shade under them, which probably distorts the color a bit too.
Two cards for today!
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/four_of_clubs.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/four_of_clubs) (http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/three_of_diamonds.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/three_of_diamonds)
38/54!
Post by: Virmir on October 16, 2010, 11:58:50 PM
Done with diamonds! 39/54 [:)
Also, I got the test printing from TGC yesterday. [:) I'm not going to post pictures this time because they are all starting to look the same (and the colors turn out differently in the camera, anyway [;))
Basically, they turned out better centered this time. I'm not sure if them turning out nicely is a fluke, or the bad centering last time was the fluke. SPOD still printed them better centered, but this batch was in acceptable ranges, I'd say. Will be buying one last test deck from them for sure to see.
I like their print quality better than SPOD's... the only thing is, TGC prints insanely darkly. It's difficult to adjust the colors to get them to look decent (whereas I've already decided on which color/brightness filter I want to apply to SPOD's). Also, I hear from Tod that his deck turned out much too darkly as well, and that they are going to be adjusting their printers soon to try to fix this... so I'm thinking I'm going to wait a bit before ordering another test deck from them.
Post by: Virmir on October 17, 2010, 11:46:11 AM
I have found a third contender, this one Custom Design and Printed (http://www.customdesignprinted.com) (henceforth CDP) and have ordered a test deck from them with a few color variations.
Initial impression... these guys are way more professional presentation-wise, especially their upload software. They do offer to sell my product from their site, which would be great too. They are a bit more pricey, though. On the flip side, their shipping prices are much more reasonable. In the end, a full deck still comes out to a few dollars more than the other two places, but we'll see what kind of product they deliver. If the blasted things are centered and look good, it will be worth it. [;)
We shall see!
Post by: Virmir on October 17, 2010, 03:38:30 PM
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/nine_of_hearts.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/nine_of_hearts)(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/eight_of_hearts.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/eight_of_hearts)(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/three_of_hearts.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/three_of_hearts)
Also, as you probably noticed I made some adjustments to the heart suit. I thought it better to have all the 2s to be a smaller, cutesy character. So I swapped Tod's Sparrow for West form Ekwara. (I really wanted to draw Sparrow though... so maybe later. [;)) By result is most of the suit got bumped up one number. [;)
42/54!
Post by: Stormkit on October 18, 2010, 04:33:45 AM
However when you put those pictures next to each other, I can't help but notice certain traits in common. Namely the tail and body position of me and Alias.
As for my new status as an eight? I mildly torn between eight being an awesome number, and seven being an awesome number. I do find it appropriate that Alias is now number nine ;)
Post by: Virmir on October 18, 2010, 02:41:13 PM
(I like 8 more than 7 myself, honestly. [;))
Post by: Tvorsk on October 18, 2010, 02:46:40 PM
Post by: Geo Holms on October 18, 2010, 11:08:41 PM
Post by: Fen on October 19, 2010, 01:39:19 PM
Then the previous sets with older art can become collecter's edition sets! Or something.
Post by: Stormkit on October 20, 2010, 06:33:08 AM
Post by: Geary on October 20, 2010, 06:28:29 PM
well, if you want, you could finish it up, then return to it later and do new art for all the cards with old art on them.
Then the previous sets with older art can become collecter's edition sets! Or something.
Horrible idea is horrible (in that many people haven't been drawn yet, and it'd be unfair for them)
Post by: KaiAdin on October 21, 2010, 03:04:27 AM
Then the previous sets with older art can become collecter's edition sets! Or something.
Horrible idea is horrible (in that many people haven't been drawn yet, and it'd be unfair for them)
Well the Idea is sorta interesting in the fact that.. (from a purely egocentric/capitalist point of view) those who weren't drawn may be less likely to decide to purchase a deck, since they weren't featured in it.
If Virmir were to change the Diamonds and Hearts suites with different characters around for the new decks, keeping the virmir/Cf decks the same, he could theoretically sell more! ]:P
Anyway as far as I know thats highly unlikely to happen anyway, since by now Vir's throughly sick of making the cards. ]:)
Post by: Virmir on October 23, 2010, 05:50:59 PM
Also, there's a fair chance I'll post an art topic specifically for people who did not get a card after I'm all done. Probably will take some sort of break first though. [;)
One more!
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/jack_of_hearts.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/jack_of_hearts)
43/54!
Post by: Virmir on October 24, 2010, 12:29:00 AM
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/ace_of_hearts.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/ace_of_hearts)
44/54!
TEN BLASTED MORE LEFT
Post by: Virmir on October 24, 2010, 05:17:13 PM
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/king_of_hearts.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/king_of_hearts)
45/54!
Post by: Virmir on October 24, 2010, 11:19:19 PM
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/ten_of_hearts.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/ten_of_hearts)
46/54!
Post by: Stormkit on October 25, 2010, 02:17:50 AM
Post by: Geary on October 25, 2010, 07:20:44 AM
Moy killowa, why is it that a good fifty percent of the hearts are so royally peeved? O_o
Because we're angry only one-fourth of the cards aren't canids
Post by: EmperorDJ on October 25, 2010, 07:33:09 AM
Post by: Stormkit on October 25, 2010, 02:04:32 PM
Post by: Geary on October 25, 2010, 03:03:33 PM
Post by: Stormkit on October 25, 2010, 08:06:02 PM
Post by: Virmir on October 25, 2010, 10:43:48 PM
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/queen_of_hearts.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/queen_of_hearts)
47/54!
Post by: KaiAdin on October 26, 2010, 07:20:13 PM
I like the dress on Kayla!
Post by: Virmir on October 31, 2010, 11:00:20 AM
CARD UPDATE
Tuck boxes from SPOD!
http://gallery.virmir.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1875
These turned out really nice. If I do ship from home, I will definitely ship in these. [:) They are thin cardboard and not terribly durable, but they seem to work just fine. I don't have any other tuckboxes to compare them with.
The flattened one on the left has some faint guidelines I printed just to be sure things lined up. [;) The other two and any further ones won't have those, obviously.
Also, I took another look at SPOD's website and it seems they do offer services for selling from their site... it's just not automated and apparently I have to contact them. I will look into this.
Still no word on the deck I ordered from CDP (the third company).
Post by: Dragyn on October 31, 2010, 03:17:32 PM
Yet another reason I have to buy the deck when you finish it...
Post by: Virmir on November 01, 2010, 06:30:20 PM
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/seven_of_hearts.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/seven_of_hearts)(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/six_of_hearts.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/six_of_hearts)
49/54!
FIVE BLASTED MORE
Post by: Feathertail on November 01, 2010, 06:36:12 PM
Also, very nice. ^.^ I don't suppose there are non-card versions of any of the art available?
Post by: LurkingWolf on November 01, 2010, 07:22:41 PM
EDIT: FT, here's the art minus the card: http://art.by.virmir.com/art/feathertail
Post by: Virmir on November 03, 2010, 10:34:09 PM
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/five_of_hearts.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/five_of_hearts)
50/54!
Post by: Geary on November 03, 2010, 11:52:21 PM
Post by: Fen on November 04, 2010, 05:23:37 PM
Post by: Virmir on November 04, 2010, 06:05:06 PM
CARD UPDATE!
The deck from the third company, CDP, came in today! My camera messes up the colors, mind you, but here's a pic anyway. [;)
http://gallery.virmir.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1881
My first reaction was, "ugh, they printed these waaaaay too faded". And then I did a double-take and realized that, hey, it's not that they're too light... they're just not ridiculously dark like the other cards! I was just so used to getting things back waaaaaay too dark, it threw me for a loop. [;) I'm very pleased with how these turned out!
Points:
* Colors are very nice! In all my blasted adjustments to the coloration/brightness, I did not even bother sending them any unmodified, "pure" cards. By the looks of things, I may very well go with unmodified cards for them.
* I actually like the darker borders from the other cards. So I will probably send them darker ones. No big deal.
* Cards seem a bit thinner than the other contenders, but nice and sturdy still. I like them being thinner because they're more like real playing cards.
* No contender is safe from centering issues. This batch has them too, but not so bad. This is just something I'm going to have to accept moving forward. Looking through them, I'd have to say this is the best of the bunch so far, though.
* Corners are even more nicely round than the others. Cards are nicely cut too.
I will think about this some more, but I will very likely go with these folks. They cost a few dollars more than the others, but they clearly deliver a better product. This company is from Hong Kong (of course [;)), however I got the deck after two and a half weeks, which isn't bad at all.
Will keep you folks updated!
Also interesting, the three contenders side-by-side and how different the blasted things look:
http://gallery.virmir.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1884
From left to right, CDP, TGC, SPOD. (The images printed on the TGC are adjusted, both front and back, but the other two are exactly the same-- just different printers).
Post by: Fen on November 04, 2010, 06:28:15 PM
Post by: Tvorsk on November 05, 2010, 06:18:29 AM
See, I find dealing with overseas companies to be quite risky... but, indeed, at least in the photos it's the set looking closest to how the images are looking on my screen. Well, except the fact that Avelina is red to a glowing intensity... but I guess it's one of the "adjustments". Either way, it's only one where Virmir's gray, not blueish. >.>
Honestly, I'd say to just go with SPOD and be done with it... but well, it's your decision.
Post by: Virmir on November 06, 2010, 08:04:32 PM
Two for today!
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/four_of_hearts.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/four_of_hearts) (http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/two_of_hearts.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/two_of_hearts)
52/54!
Post by: Dragyn on November 07, 2010, 06:08:42 AM
Thanks a ton!
(Note: The others are also awesome and epic. I just have to say something about mine. :P )
Post by: Virmir on November 07, 2010, 05:52:50 PM
Annnnnd, one more!
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/black_joker.png) (http://art.by.virmir.com/art/black_joker)
53/54!
Post by: Virmir on November 07, 2010, 11:46:03 PM
54/54!
*collapses*
Thanks again for all your support, folks. [:) This has been a fun project. My next steps are going to be sending out for some more test decks and making some decisions. I would not expect the deck to be ready for purchase any sooner than a month from now. Will see how it goes. [:)
Art-wise... I'll be taking a break from requests for a while. Will post another topic when ready for more. [;)
Post by: PrincessHotcakes on November 08, 2010, 07:51:51 AM
LUUUUUUUUUURRRRRVE it!!!
Post by: KaiAdin on November 08, 2010, 06:04:26 PM
*Oozes love and melts into a pile of bubbling radioactive goo*
LUUUUUUUUUURRRRRVE it!!!
*prods the radioactive goo*
/me thinks of the OOZEIUM (http://advancewars.wikia.com/wiki/Oozium_238) in AdvanceWars
/me Orders it to Advance on the Fox Army!
Post by: Stormkit on November 09, 2010, 12:09:18 AM
Post by: PrincessHotcakes on November 09, 2010, 10:24:24 AM
Post by: Virmir on November 17, 2010, 05:17:37 PM
Okay, the final proof from TCG has arrived. [:)
http://gallery.virmir.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1903
http://gallery.virmir.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1906
(Remember, my camera is lame and colors are off.)
This looks pretty good! Once again they delivered without any major centering issues. (Again, it's not perfect, but it's passable.) As this is the fourth deck I got from them (not including the very first), I'm going to assume the very badly centered batch was due to them just setting up their new printers. All the images are modified to accommodate for their crazy-dark printers, and they look quite nice now! I will definitely be going with these folks. [:)
I'm still awaiting another potential final proof from CDP (the Hong Kong one). If this deck looks nice too, I will also sell cards from them. They might be a better option for people outside the US.
SPOD is now officially out. They do sell directly from their site, but I need to set things up with them manually, and I much prefer TCG's web interface. Also comparing SPOD's cards side-by-side with the other two contenders, they look a little grainy...
This means decks will NOT come with the nifty tuckbox pictured a few pages back. However, I will provide the PDF file for people to print out and assemble themselves if they have cardstock or something. [:)
Also I can order more tuckboxes and decks separately and stick the two together and sell/ship them myself... Knowing that you can print the box yourself, would anyone be interested in paying a bit more to buy a deck with a (professionally printed) box directly from me? I suppose I could sign it or something to make it worth it. [;) I'm estimating you will be able to buy decks shipped (to the US) for around $17-$18. A deck with a box from me would probably be something like $22 (a few more dollars outside the US.) I'm not entirely sure, as I need to see how many boxes I'll need to order and how much shipping that would cost me, etc. If there is interest, I will consider this. [:)
EDIT: To clarify, TCG cards have been color and brightness adjusted, and I no longer look purple. [;)
Post by: Virmir on November 17, 2010, 05:49:15 PM
CDP will definitely be the option for international customers. [;)
Post by: Stormkit on November 18, 2010, 12:01:54 AM
Post by: Jonas on November 18, 2010, 05:14:21 PM
Post by: LurkingWolf on November 18, 2010, 05:24:29 PM
Post by: Virmir on November 19, 2010, 12:55:25 AM
HOWEVER
This is a moot point for most people here because PRE-ORDERS ARE NOW OPEN! (http://cards.virmir.com/)
http://cards.virmir.com/
Details are in the above link. Main points are 1) I will ship all pre-ordered cards myself, so shipping prices are reasonable for everyone (and much less than I estimated before, now that I sat down and did the math [;)), and 2) TUCKBOXES!!
(http://art.by.virmir.com/i/thumb/crimson_flag_voltar.png) (http://cards.virmir.com/)
BUY BUY BUY!!
EDIT: Don't forget, pre-orders END on November 27th. I don't want to run this too long before I order cards. [;)
Post by: Jonas on November 19, 2010, 08:01:05 AM
Post by: LurkingWolf on November 19, 2010, 09:35:53 AM
Post by: Virmir on November 19, 2010, 09:46:11 AM
If you don't have it ready by the cut-off date, but you can guarantee me that you'll have it shortly after, let me know and I'll order one for you too. [:)
Post by: Jonas on November 20, 2010, 08:27:42 AM
Post by: LurkingWolf on November 20, 2010, 08:42:49 PM
I'll see if I can order a deck sometime when I'm off campus for Thanksgiving.
Post by: Virmir on November 20, 2010, 08:48:24 PM
Post by: Virmir on November 24, 2010, 11:21:46 PM
http://cards.virmir.com/
Ideally you'll be able to send payment by that time, but if you need a bit more time and can guarantee it to me soon after, that works too! I aim to order all the needed decks on the 28th. [:)
Post by: Virmir on November 27, 2010, 12:39:26 AM
If you paid and are NOT on this list, contact me right away!
If you want to pre-order and get a signed tuckbox, please do so in the next 24 hours! http://cards.virmir.com/
(If not, you can just buy them regularly, without the custom tuckbox for a comparable price shortly. [;))
If you are DEFINITELY interested in a pre-order, but are waiting for payment to clear or something else and can't pay by tomorrow but can do so within a few days, please contact me right away! A late payment is fine. I just need to know how many to order when I do so on the 28th.
Pre-order List:
KaiAdin (x2)
Pontos
Tvorsk
Aleph (Will get back to you on the you-know-what. [;))
Jonas (Pending payment, but I'll order one for you. Pay when you're ready. [:))
Medik Jackal
Kenku (Pretty sure that's you. [;))
Dragyn
Geary
Traxer
2dogsandaDJ
RadioactiveToast
LurkingWolf (I'm going by your above post that you are interested, so will order a copy for you. If you get in late, no big deal. If you change your mind, no big deal. [:))
Thanks, folks. [:)
Post by: Virmir on November 28, 2010, 11:50:57 AM
Thanks, everyone! I'm ordering the decks right now. Everyone listed above will get one, along with the signed tuck-box. To the people I'm awaiting payment on, please contact me within a week to verify you're still interested. If not, I'll probably make these decks available too.
Post by: LurkingWolf on December 03, 2010, 09:07:56 PM
Post by: Virmir on December 04, 2010, 12:31:50 AM
Post by: Virmir on December 05, 2010, 01:00:29 PM
http://cards.virmir.com/
You can now order cards directly from the two providers listed in the above link. Thanks for your support everyone! This has been a fun project. [:)
Pre-order Update
I have the pre-order cards! They will be shipping in nice little white boxes. [:)
http://gallery.virmir.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1939
However, I do NOT have the tuckboxes yet. SPOD has elevated my order to "under review", so I expect they will print them soon. (I love how TCG printed all the cards and shipped them to me BEFORE SPOD even printed 5 sheets of tuckboxes... [;))
Assuming I get the tuckboxes by this Saturday, I should be able to start shipping these starting Monday the 13th. International orders may be delayed if the post office is insane, or it's snowing too hard... *twitch*
Will keep you updated!
Post by: KaiAdin on December 05, 2010, 02:19:43 PM
Post by: Virmir on December 05, 2010, 05:30:12 PM
Post by: Virmir on December 10, 2010, 03:35:48 PM
Tuckboxes have arrived! All that's left is to assemble everything and print shipping labels!
I had to work this morning, but managed to get two packaged and out to the mailbox before the carrier came. [;)
Shipped (12/10)
Dragyn
Geary
All other US orders will ship tomorrow (12/11) and Monday (12/13). (I can only fit so many in my mailbox, so have to split them. [;)) These are shipped 1st class, which advertises 2-5 business day delivery. It's the holiday season, so it may take a bit longer though.
International orders will ship Monday, provided I am not snowed in... [;)
(If you're late to the game, buy your cards here! http://cards.virmir.com/)
Post by: Virmir on December 11, 2010, 01:27:45 PM
Medik Jackal
Kenku
Traxer
Rest on Monday. [:)
Post by: Virmir on December 13, 2010, 01:55:25 PM
(Except, still holding on to yours, Toast, until after your trip. [;))
That's one project completely done and over with. Thanks again, folks. [:)
One more time: Cards may be bought direct from the printers here! http://cards.virmir.com/
Post by: LurkingWolf on December 16, 2010, 08:57:30 AM
Post by: PrincessHotcakes on January 05, 2011, 11:26:17 AM