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Comic Discussion => Crimson Flag Comic => Topic started by: DCL on May 07, 2009, 05:20:47 AM
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First to say, i do enjoy the writing and art for the comic. Its very well written, and you drop these nice hints that you really have to watch for.
Next to say, the hints are there in the past. (if they hold to be true.)
Ultimately, the hero, lucian, his father's goals are to bring him home. (The artifacts and what each does being why he needs to. The other is wether or not its what they are controlling the father, or a harmony for them if paired.)
If i had to guess, and i most certainly am. That the artifacts are mage gift bound and tied up until death to a user. The sister, though its never said, is of the same magical nature the hero's line is blessed with.
The next thing, if the comic hold true, is how much collateral damage lucien's sister does to the noble line, or if this is more the regicide move from their father, and the fact i would swear he expects reprisal, so id say, that he leaves survivors, but wounds and shows to get this. Even if not, that he forces the issue through the other wounded nobles wanting blood.
Its tough, but to guess on a limb, he wants the son either imprisoned (with a plan to free) or to get him involved in either stopping his sister, and seeking revenge (Not that likely, but possible, as he really tries to be friendly in early strips, even in teaching him magic.)
There isn't quite enough to go on until the next strip to really guess that much further. But i do look quite forward.
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I love reading speculations. [:)
Welcome to the forums and thanks for reading!
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As much as I have evidence to the contrary, I still can't bring myself to say that Lucian's father is evil. Something inside me feels there is far, far more to his character than that. While my "Nuclear bomb" theory was correct, I originally believed he would use it only as a threat. However, even though he is causing all this damage, I think that he will feel remorse for it afterwards. Due to the scope of damage this is causing, it is doubtful he has tested this thing's power before. Therefore, upon seeing how over-powered his response is to his simple denial of independence, his emotional capacity will reach its tipping point. Therefore, after this, he will go home, cry, and begin ruling his nation in the struggle for absolute peace within himself.
However, the real question is how Lucian will take sides when all this is over. I do not believe he will support either the Reds or the Grays, and will instead fly off and join the Arctics. Well...not really, but in a more metaphoric sense. Instead of taking a side, Lucian will most likely seek a middle ground, which would imply enlisting the help of the other races to sort through this mess. This will create a whole 'NOTHER messy situation. MASSIVE BATTLE SEQUENCE. Then...his father...who wants peace...will try to stop Lucian because he knows what will happen when races intermix...
In all truthfulness, the story could just end here if you wanted it to. But I assume that's not the case, since you need another MASSIVE BATTLE SEQUENCE in here before you tie things up.
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This is how the story is going to go...
Reds build the bomb, they blow up amberwood.
Arctics start a cold war with the reds.
bombs fall, every one dies
TPK GG ROFL.
But... wait
out of the ashes arises Virmir!
To start a new comic about:
post apocalyptic destruction of the world.
and he will call it "Crimson Sky"
as the sky will be painted red
with dust that never falls.
>.>
Well i like to have fun with my guesses at least.
So am i warm or cold Virmir? [;)
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Cold...
Nuclear Cold |:P
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*shifts eyes*
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Cold...
Nuclear Cold |:P
"Fusion reactions require that the atoms be raised to temperatures of millions of degrees."
a cold room is about 300 kelvins
a warm room is about 335 kelvins
a boil room is about 373 kelvins
my guess, according to Pontos, is about 10,000,000 Kelvins
A very warm guess no? [;)
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A very warm guess no? [;)
Heh, It's like how people use "Quantum Leap" to mean a HUGE advance in some technology or field, but in science it refers to the smallest scales ]:P
Mmmm... 13,600,000 Kelvin toasty! *roasts marshmallows* ];)
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my guess, according to Pontos, is about 10,000,000 Kelvins
A very warm guess no? [;)
Haha, I know that fusion requires heat. I was talking about the theory of the "nuclear winter" that may come after a nuclear holocaust.
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This also brings us into the winter of my discontent caused by the direction of these posts. It's a nuclear winter, too, since it is caused by the nuclear coldness of des...
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....we could probably go all day with this...
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....we could probably go all day with this...
To post is ionic!
or is it ironic?
Mhmm, perhaps its both.
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I think he plans to use Lucian's sister as the next in line for queen over the foxes.
But that's just me {:P
/SMALL TEXT FAIL
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The Queen is gonna get it!
thats all I am thinking right now >.>
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There will be grand adventurous fuzzy swashbuckling hijink on multiple levels of coolness.
Or...is that a given?
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Well...
There will be grand adventurous fuzzy swashbuckling hijink on multiple levels of coolness.
Or...is that a given?
Its about to be received!!! [:P
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Well...
There will be grand adventurous fuzzy swashbuckling hijink on multiple levels of coolness.
Or...is that a given?
Its about to be received!!! [:P
Fire starboard cannons!
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Well...
There will be grand adventurous fuzzy swashbuckling hijink on multiple levels of coolness.
Or...is that a given?
Its about to be received!!! [:P
Fire starboard cannons!
But sir! We don't even know what were firing!
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Well...
There will be grand adventurous fuzzy swashbuckling hijink on multiple levels of coolness.
Or...is that a given?
Its about to be received!!! [:P
Fire starboard cannons!
But sir! We don't even know what were firing!
It doesn't matter! Just fire!
ok done being silly. traxer if there is no swashbuckling i would be oh so sad.
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The Queen is gonna get it!
thats all I am thinking right now >.>
The queen got chucked off the giant bird thing! HA! In a way I was right. >.>
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Why not be silly? Virmir doesn't give us ANY hints to speculate on. :P
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The queen got chucked off the giant bird thing! HA! In a way I was right. >.>
Bah, I bet Julian will swoop down and grab her at the last second! You don't kill off such a lucrative bargaining chip!
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Unless you're insane! >_>
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Unless you're insane! >_>
Even then. You should have said 'Unless he didn't actually plan anything out', which would be more accurate.
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Even then. You should have said 'Unless he didn't actually plan anything out', which would be more accurate.
You must have forgotten... Its ALL part of Julian's Brilliant plan, He always plans things out!
That is untill things don't go along with his plans, but I he always has a Backup Brilliant plan! ];)
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Even then. You should have said 'Unless he didn't actually plan anything out', which would be more accurate.
You must have forgotten... Its ALL part of Julian's Brilliant plan, He always plans things out!
That is until things don't go along with his plans, but I he always has a Backup Brilliant plan! ];)
Too bad they never work.
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The plan is so Brilliant that is fails anyway >.<
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Bah, I bet Julian will swoop down and grab her at the last second! You don't kill off such a lucrative bargaining chip!
ah so the Dragon/Emiline did! hahaha I was nearly Right! And thats why the Death Evan left early! to avoid the Airship cannons! (the brilliant plan is going to plan!)
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ah so the Dragon/Emiline did! hahaha I was nearly Right! And thats why the Death Evan left early! to avoid the Airship cannons! (the brilliant plan is going to plan!)
Wait, the dragon is named Emiline?
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ah so the Dragon/Emiline did! hahaha I was nearly Right! And thats why the Death Evan left early! to avoid the Airship cannons! (the brilliant plan is going to plan!)
Wait, the dragon is named Emiline?
No no, thats Just another guess of mine, it hasnt been stated yet, but I bet Emiline was turned into the dragon. Also... thats gonna Hurt, I think Queen Avila was Dropped onto the deck of the Death Evan...]:(
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ah so the Dragon/Emiline did! hahaha I was nearly Right! And thats why the Death Evan left early! to avoid the Airship cannons! (the brilliant plan is going to plan!)
Wait, the dragon is named Emiline?
No no, thats Just another guess of mine, it hasnt been stated yet, but I bet Emiline was turned into the dragon. Also... thats gonna Hurt, I think Queen Avila was Dropped onto the deck of the Death Evan...]:(
That... actually makes total sense. So the spell turned her into a dragon and called for her? That would explain why Julian told her to wait...
...Wait a second... sense when have you said things that made sense? SPY!
*Sets KaiSpy on fire*
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Wait, the dragon is named Emiline?
No no, thats Just another guess of mine, it hasnt been stated yet, but I bet Emiline was turned into the dragon.
That... actually makes total sense. So the spell turned her into a dragon and called for her? That would explain why Julian told her to wait...
For more about it:
http://crimsonflagcomic.com/forum/chat/?view=logs
Date: 2009-10-12 Time: 12:00 (these are server-side time, so valid no matter what timezone you're in.)
Now, the times IN the chat window are in your specified timezone, so hour readout may vary...
From just near the beginning, ("Jay: Who are these characters in the picture?")
To about 15-20 minutes later ("Stormkit: none of the current day romantizations" or end of the a bit derailed discussion a bit farther away).
/me wonders how LogKitty could miss it...
My point? There are many different possibilites of the Emiline/Julian's Dragon relationship.
It can be a shapeshifted dragon with true girl left at home. That's scenario that I'd be happy the most with, but I'm well-aware that having Lucian's beloved little sister turned into a monster could be a major plot point in Virmir's future scripts.
If it's the case, what's happening? Is she "in control" and an ally to her father's plans? Is her soul/mind posessed by some demon/dragon spirit/whatever? If so can we get her back, or is she lost forever? It has a great potential for dramatic happenings, agreed... but I will wish for real Emiline being at her home, not knowing about anything.
We have NO arguments in favor or against any of the possibilities, and Virmir for obvious reasons won't tell us.
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/me wonders how LogKitty could miss it...
While /me cliams to be the LogKitty, LogKitty dosent claim to dosent claim to be omnipresent
I wasn't there and I don't bother to read every second of the logs in detail!
Ack its too late at night for me to process the meandering-ness of Kits and everyone elses opinions... Could you at least provide a summary of the chat soo those who aren't as inclined to read the logs comment and contribute!
Edit: so that section was a discussion on the vairious possibiities... Right! Ok, so your point is?
Edit1: Tvorsk: I'd personally want the "real" Emiline to be left home and it's all being just a shapeshifted disguise...
Edit2: Heh sorry I was in a Grumpy mood from having just woken up that would cast MK Virmir as just a whiny child (....oh wait a second...];) )
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Good 'gates we've been waiting forever for this moment! SHE'S BACK! Ur...well, she's been there...but...well...our guesses have finally been confirmed!
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is that who i think it is!? :o
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It doesn't confirm anything... It can be her, it can be a disguise...
But it drastically inceases the probability of it being her... after all, what would be the point of disguising the dragon again?
Unless... that panting... the dragon was too tired to fly after the ship, and at the same time too large to fit on it?/me sighs.
I still hope it isn't her...
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It doesn't confirm anything... It can be her, it can be a disguise...
But it drastically inceases the probability of it being her... after all, what would be the point of disguising the dragon again?
Unless... that panting... the dragon was too tired to fly after the ship, and at the same time too large to fit on it?/me sighs.
I still hope it isn't her...
THAT DRAGONS AH SPAH!!!
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Hmm.... I wonder if there's going to be a confrontation between Emiline and Sierra summon spirit.... DARGON battle!!:D
Though personally I think that Emiline needs a couple great big hugs; she looks like she needs them. Too bad Aleph ain't in this comic.
...though random ridiculous WMG... blue dragon, glowing, spirit... *puts on fake beard and strokes* Hmmmm...... ]:P
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What I'm most curious about is if/to what extent Vimir will go about showing the aftermath of... whatever event happens in what would traditionally be the end (like a large final battle). Personally, I hope there's a fair bit, but of course it's Vimir's comic so who knows.
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Hmm... random could-be-easily-wrong-guessing, buuuut... Voltar& fellow jailbreakers will burst up onto the scene in the middle of some fight, though no clue yet what that'll be yet.
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If I had to guess, I'd say that at some point, Lucian's loyalties will be pushed too far.
So far, he has been admirably loyal to his adopted country. He knows his father's scheme is crazy and will end up getting a lot of people killed, so he's trying to head off a major war.
On the other hand, his entire family is on the other side. Lucian may be opposed to Julian's plan on every other level, but Julian may believe he can control Lucian via familial loyalty if things go hot (since he seems to be doing everything in his power to provoke total war). If everyone you know and care about will get stomped if your enemy loses...
The reds may have good cause to be suspicious of Lucian if things do end up going that far.
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I predict Lucian will spend several comics stuck in feral form from the Staff of Adorableness at some point after which he becomes the only good guy not captured/incapacitated and will have to free the others by crawling and scurrying around.
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I predict Lucian will spend several comics stuck in feral form from the Staff of Adorableness at some point after which he becomes the only good guy not captured/incapacitated and will have to free the others by crawling and scurrying around.
I agree Toast
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Some wild and baseless speculation on the backstory of the
glowy-rod-of-doom edit Staff of Adorableness:
So we have this magical device whose apparent purpose is to turn anthropomorphized creatures into animals. Perhaps in the distant past there was some sort of conflict between Faction A which wanted to anthropomorphize things, and Faction B, which was trying to turn everything back into animals. Since the present world is populated with anthropomorphized foxes, we can surmise that Faction A won and ended up destroying and burying the tools of Faction B. (Or maybe Faction B won, but wasn't thorough enough in purging the world of intelligence, and left. Some foxes remained and populated the setting).
It's one possibility. It also provides potential plot hooks to fix the queen and Bryce's condition.
You could have an archaeological quest to find Faction A's lost knowledge and/or tools to fix Julian's mess. (An excuse to tour more of the world! (and drag more of it into the conflict)) Faction B could end up being the bigger-bad that finally unites the Reds and Greys.
Ooh, bonus: Maybe this ancient conflict has something to do with the Red's cultural aversion to summoning things. Maybe one, or both of the factions were summoned (or invited themselves into) the world, and the Reds don't want to attract the attention of one side or the other.
Okay, I'll stop wildly speculating now and let the author tell his tale. [:P
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Ok, Wild Mass Guessing on this... but I put a prediction that perhaps all the protagonists will get feralized, and they will run into the woods and will run into the "shamanistic, nature-tuned" Swift foxes and will have to learn about inner strength, animal nature, or some other inner voyage of character discovery.
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Ok, Wild Mass Guessing on this... but I put a prediction that perhaps all the protagonists will get feralized, and they will run into the woods and will run into the "shamanistic, nature-tuned" Swift foxes and will have to learn about inner strength, animal nature, or some other inner voyage of character discovery.
...Toast, that sounds awesome. Like, the plot of a Pixar movie or something.
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...Toast, that sounds awesome. Like, the plot of a Pixar movie or something.
Howlin', Zavier...
"Awesome" and "plot of a Pixar movie" next to each other?
I think you've just won the Sarcasm Of The Year award...
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...Toast, that sounds awesome. Like, the plot of a Pixar movie or something.
Howlin', Zavier...
"Awesome" and "plot of a Pixar movie" next to each other?
I think you've just won the Sarcasm Of The Year award...
...I...wasn't being sarcastic. If I were, I would've said "plot of a Dreamworks movie."
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...Toast, that sounds awesome. Like, the plot of a Pixar movie or something.
Howlin', Zavier...
"Awesome" and "plot of a Pixar movie" next to each other?
I think you've just won the Sarcasm Of The Year award...
...I...wasn't being sarcastic. If I were, I would've said "plot of a Dreamworks movie."
Okay, maybe I'm mixing makers up...
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...Toast, that sounds awesome. Like, the plot of a Pixar movie or something.
Howlin', Zavier...
"Awesome" and "plot of a Pixar movie" next to each other?
I think you've just won the Sarcasm Of The Year award...
...I...wasn't being sarcastic. If I were, I would've said "plot of a Dreamworks movie."
Woah now, Dreamworks made Jurassic Park, remember?
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...Toast, that sounds awesome. Like, the plot of a Pixar movie or something.
Howlin', Zavier...
"Awesome" and "plot of a Pixar movie" next to each other?
I think you've just won the Sarcasm Of The Year award...
...I...wasn't being sarcastic. If I were, I would've said "plot of a Dreamworks movie."
Woah now, Dreamworks made Jurassic Park, remember?
Let me rephrase: RECENT Dreamworks movies.
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...Toast, that sounds awesome. Like, the plot of a Pixar movie or something.
Howlin', Zavier...
"Awesome" and "plot of a Pixar movie" next to each other?
I think you've just won the Sarcasm Of The Year award...
...I...wasn't being sarcastic. If I were, I would've said "plot of a Dreamworks movie."
Kung-Fu Panda and How To Train Your Dragon
Woah now, Dreamworks made Jurassic Park, remember?
Let me rephrase: RECENT Dreamworks movies.
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...Toast, that sounds awesome. Like, the plot of a Pixar movie or something.
Howlin', Zavier...
"Awesome" and "plot of a Pixar movie" next to each other?
I think you've just won the Sarcasm Of The Year award...
...I...wasn't being sarcastic. If I were, I would've said "plot of a Dreamworks movie."
Kung-Fu Panda and How To Train Your Dragon
Woah now, Dreamworks made Jurassic Park, remember?
Let me rephrase: RECENT Dreamworks movies.
You put your new text thing inside of one of your quotes, Geary. ]:P
And you're telling, like, the only two good examples.
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hmmm... Now does the Fennec Assassin do a heal face turn and team up with Lucian perhaps?...
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hmmm... Now does the Fennec Assassin do a heal face turn and team up with Lucian perhaps?...
Next time I'm in a party with a cleric, I'm totally calling him "heal face."
...But I'm guessing you actually meant Heel Face Turn (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeelFaceTurn)...
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....derp.
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...I just realized something.
If Julian is exiled from the Auberwood, does that technically mean Lucian as his son inherits?
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a boil room is about 373 kelvins
A room full of boils? ]:O
Though personally I think that Emiline needs a couple great big hugs; she looks like she needs them. Too bad Aleph ain't in this comic.
Soulstealer? How would that help? He abhors emotional physical contact.
My personal guess/prediction, the comic will... CONTINUE!
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Dark Pegasus is Aliph Soulstealer, if I remember right.
Aleph (http://crimsonflagcomic.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=167) is our fellow CF member, who's part time a blue ghost, part time a blue'gon, part time a blue wuffie... and has a black belt at Hug-Fu. {;)
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...I just realized something.
If Julian is exiled from the Auberwood, does that technically mean Lucian as his son inherits?
Probably if the curse is lifted. The Reds probably would see him as trusted in their eyes, not to mention they only other Heir(Emiline) by the looks has taken favor with one of the scorns of their religious idol.
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Hmm... considering there was earlier speculation about Emiline and what if she summoned dragon spirits like Sierra does...
I now wonder what a Sierra dragon would look like. And I realize Virmir will of course not draw this even if he doesn't have it planned because that in itself would be a spoiler =p
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If it is that sort of fusing, I wonder what Luciel will look like if it came to that. Fire Spirit and fox merged.
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If it is that sort of fusing, I wonder what Luciel will look like if it came to that. Fire Spirit and fox merged.
I suspect you'd have to call the result "Mozilla". |:P
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If it is that sort of fusing, I wonder what Luciel will look like if it came to that. Fire Spirit and fox merged.
I suspect you'd have to call the result "Mozilla". |:P
{:O hahaha
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If it is that sort of fusing, I wonder what Luciel will look like if it came to that. Fire Spirit and fox merged.
I suspect you'd have to call the result "Mozilla". |:P
{:O hahaha
Y'know, Mozilla was a green lizard who grown up into a red T-rexish 'saur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_(mascot)).
The Firefox mascot, as far as I know, is just named Firefox (and is a red panda!)
Though, his Japanese cousin Foxkeh (http://www.foxkeh.com/), is an actual fox.
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Ok, I definitly will be suprised if the fighting area isn't rubble next page.