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Title: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Shadow99611 on September 26, 2012, 01:31:07 AM
If you couldn't tell from my avatar (if looking back on this years later the avatar is the Ruger logo), I happen to have a particular affinity for guns.

Now some people have never touched a gun in their lives. Some have misconceptions, and others couldn't care less about them, and would prefer to talk about the shiny new claymore they got.

Welp, here's the place to talk about all that dangerous nonsense! If you have a question about any weapon, want to flaunt your zombie-preparedness, or otherwise bask in deadly glory, just give a shout out here!

Since this is the first post, I'll give you guys a bit of an idea of what could follow.

I currently own a Ruger Superblackhawk single action revolver and a Carbine length AR-15. (I have others, but in order to keep Internet predators on their toes I won't mention them.)

So, to start off, if you've got absolutely no idea what the listed guns even ARE above. Post! Start a conversation! It doesn't even have to be relevant to this! It is the 'random topics' area after all!
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Generic Meatbag #14 on September 26, 2012, 04:53:14 AM
That's quite the adventurous topic you're posting.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Shadow99611 on September 26, 2012, 11:50:48 AM
How so? I don't believe I break any of the rules. And I thought it might be interesting to discuss these things with people.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: PrincessHotcakes on September 26, 2012, 11:57:43 AM
Meatbag, it's dramatic flair ];)

Anyway, I should drag my brother onto here later.  He's the one with the guns in the family, including an 1850 Colt Navy he's been slowly refurbishing over the past year, along with a shotgun.  I DO know that he's planning on getting a rifle (I think a Springfield) because he's getting into Civil War reenacting and plans on being in Gettysburg for the 150th anniversary next year.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Shadow99611 on September 26, 2012, 02:15:52 PM
Lol, felt like Voltar when writing it..  Anyhow, do you know if he goes and shoots with them? Generally the rennacters from what I've heard like to use black powder In thier loads for authenticity.

Now is that the colt peacemaker? I cant remember if that was a nickname or what it was actually called..
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: I am the IZOD on September 26, 2012, 03:12:21 PM
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg594/scaled.php?server=594&filename=img20120627173503.jpg&res=crop)

This is my M1851 Colt Navy revolver.  It is a reproduction of a .36 caliber cap and ball revolver that was common during the American Civil War.  The black powder, wadding, and ball all go in separately, then the cap is put on behind the loaded chamber.  I have all the things I need to shoot it, and I have done so on a few occasions.

I also have a 20 gauge pump action shotgun from Mossberg, and a Tikka 30-06 rifle, which I used to slay my first deer.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Shadow99611 on September 26, 2012, 04:12:54 PM
Awesome guns! I like the civil war and the era immediately after that for weapon designs (I like western style stuff). But i think the loading of the revolver would eventually get on my nerves. I don't really have a big enough hunting rifle for up here (In AK, we usually aim for moose, not so much deer), and .223 is kinda small for that job.

Anyhow, how well does the Colt shoot? Assuming of course you've been out enough to check its accuracy.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Virmir on September 26, 2012, 04:42:00 PM
My only knowledge of guns are the ones from Goldeneye. Though I'm starting to remember the ones from Perfect Dark now. [;)
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Shadow99611 on September 26, 2012, 05:03:12 PM
Lol, never played either of those games. What weapons can you use?
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: I am the IZOD on September 26, 2012, 05:46:01 PM
Well, one problem I noticed about Goldeneye was that for the most part it did not use real gun names for things like the AK-47.  Not sure why.

But about my Navy.  I have checked the accuracy on it, and I have noticed that even a 20 ft, I have to aim low to hit my target.  That, and I have noticed that the rifling is a little worn on one part in the barrel.  I am reluctant to take it out shooting a lot because of the brass frame, which I have heard does not stand up to stress from shooting actual bullets as well as steel frames.  Brass frames are better suited for reenacting than for shooting a lot, as in once a week (which I don't do anyway).

What do you even use on Moose anyway?  Anything between .30 and .50 cal?
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Shadow99611 on September 26, 2012, 06:36:54 PM
I think the whole 'game not specifically naming guns' is due to the fact that most military issue weapons are just letters and numbers (AR-15, Ak-47, M60) that kinda nonsense.

And as for moose? You don't necessarily use a large caliber, but you need TONS of powder behind whatever shot you plan to use.

I didn't realize they made working guns with brass frames...
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Generic Meatbag #14 on September 26, 2012, 07:06:35 PM
Our home gun stable consists of:
Rifles: two Savage .22 bolt-action rifles, one Schultz & Larsen .22 single-shot bolt rifle, one 5.56mm built AR, and an M1 Garand chambered in the classic .30-06.

Pistols: One Baikal .22 target pistol, one SIG Trailside .22, Two Glock 9mms, one of which my dad uses for concealed carry, and a Springfield Range Officer .45 1911 (my personal favorite).

Shotgun: Remington pump-action I believe. It's for home defense so it doesn't see much action.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Shadow99611 on September 26, 2012, 09:36:25 PM
I want a 1911 sooo baaaddd.... Anyhow, what format is the AR in? (longbarrel? Stock? other?)
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Karina on September 28, 2012, 02:26:16 AM
My own experience with guns is somewhat limited, having only been to a range twice. The first time I fired the M16A2, which I did quite well with. Qualified expert, even. The second time, which was more recently, I got to use the M4. I didn't qualify quite as well with the M4, but it was fun getting to use a red dot sight and the three-round burst setting.

I've been considering purchasing myself a rifle, but I'm not really sure what I'd want to get at this point. Not to mention I have other things to spend my money on at the moment, so I keep putting it off.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Generic Meatbag #14 on September 28, 2012, 03:34:13 AM
I want a 1911 sooo baaaddd.... Anyhow, what format is the AR in? (longbarrel? Stock? other?)
1911 is good shootin'. Or at least the Range Officer is.

I'm not familiar with all the terminology, and I'm not exactly sure what my dad did to build it, but it has the standard AR solid stock, and I believe it has a heavy match barrel.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Digital Vulpine on September 28, 2012, 11:23:58 AM
Regarding Goldeneye, the "AKA-47" usually is a result of one of two things: either they were trying to dodge censorship/keep their rating down in one of the export countries at the time the game was made (which at times included the US) or, for guns that were more "cutting edge" at the time the game was made, they did not want to license the name from the gun's manufacturer, or couldn't afford to.

The licensing variant can be seen a lot with other things too, such as cars in racing games.  {;)  "Ferrari?  What Ferrari?"
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Shadow99611 on September 29, 2012, 05:58:16 PM
@ Dimitriy, you should invest in an AR-15. It's the civilian availible version of those two guns. If you have the aptitude you could also just build one from a kit. (all my posts seem to come back to the AR. Lol)

@Meat, yeah, the H-bar is a pretty popular addition, it keeps the barrel cooler due to it's mass, and let's the gun stay accurate over long firing times.

@Digital Vulp., I aphadnt thought about the licensing thing, but there are so many people who make so many versions of the same gun, what does it matter? I dunno about the first part, it didn't stop CoD at all..
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Generic Meatbag #14 on September 29, 2012, 08:58:59 PM
ARs are, well, really popular. They shoot a low-recoil, affordable and common caliber in the 5.56mm, they're modular as crap so you can replace almost anything you want with the huge aftermarket they've got behind them, they're mechanically simple and pretty dang reliable. So there's a reason we keep coming back to them.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Karina on September 30, 2012, 03:55:40 AM
Indeed, I have been considering an AR. The modularity is nice, and I'd already be fairly familiar with it. And by that I mean at one point I probably could have built one blindfolded. I certainly could do it in under a minute, but that was just about three years ago, so I'm a bit out of practice.  {:P
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Generic Meatbag #14 on September 30, 2012, 08:13:38 PM
I've never taken apart or built guns in that manner. Maybe it's time to start.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Shadow99611 on September 30, 2012, 09:03:37 PM
Uhh, Dimitriy? I mean like build the whole gun. Start with the bone bare upper and lower receivers, add the trigger, safety switch, and all the other things associated. It's pretty easy to do, and i think costs less overall. But I think you were thinking of the fieldstripping, which is delightfully easy.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Karina on October 01, 2012, 03:41:52 AM
Uhh, Dimitriy? I mean like build the whole gun. Start with the bone bare upper and lower receivers, add the trigger, safety switch, and all the other things associated. It's pretty easy to do, and i think costs less overall. But I think you were thinking of the fieldstripping, which is delightfully easy.

You are, of course, correct. It would be quite interesting to build the whole thing, and I'll probably look into it. I enjoy that sort of thing, more fun than simply attaching part a to part b and bam, you're done.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Generic Meatbag #14 on October 06, 2012, 11:57:55 PM
So I was messing around on a game mod site and came across this little number. (http://gamebanana.com/models/2781) Doesn't look like standard fare for a revolver, does it? A little research later, the Mateba Unica 6 is a real revolver, and furthermore, it's recoil-operated semi-automatic. Now that's very unconventional for a revolver, so I found a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvbM6_UsmGE&NR=1) to demonstrate the action, conveniently in slow motion. Definitely an interesting way to put together a revolver.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Shadow99611 on October 07, 2012, 01:03:58 AM
The Italians.. Of course, It seems interesting.. But it might be a tad easier just to get a standard double action.

Though there is a 'fun' factor involved, and the novelty. I read on wikipedia that somebody threw a 15" barrel on it... Quite the odd weapon all in all...
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Ezekiel Moon on October 30, 2012, 11:35:42 AM
What about Medieval/Renaissance weaponry?  Which do you like of those?
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Generic Meatbag #14 on October 30, 2012, 05:14:23 PM
What about Medieval/Renaissance weaponry?  Which do you like of those?
But that period doesn't have guns....
If you must know, swords, swords, all kinds of swords. And if I can build up the arm strength to use one, a war hammer. Would be very useful for cracking skulls, breaking shoulders, legs, and opening canned food.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Geary on October 30, 2012, 06:11:25 PM
What about Medieval/Renaissance weaponry?  Which do you like of those?
But that period doesn't have guns....
If you must know, swords, swords, all kinds of swords. And if I can build up the arm strength to use one, a war hammer. Would be very useful for cracking skulls, breaking shoulders, legs, and opening canned food.

Would very early firearms fall under Renaissance?
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Shadow99611 on October 30, 2012, 06:16:33 PM
Doesn't have to be just about guns, knives, swords, flails, whatever. It's all good. Opening food with a warhammer... Overkill much?
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Generic Meatbag #14 on October 30, 2012, 08:42:52 PM
Doesn't have to be just about guns, knives, swords, flails, whatever. It's all good. Opening food with a warhammer... Overkill much?
No kill like overkill.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: PrincessHotcakes on January 14, 2013, 07:13:19 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-20931468

None of us have anything on this bling-gun
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Generic Meatbag #14 on January 15, 2013, 09:57:55 PM
Muammar Gadhafi had, at least before he was done in:

(http://cogunforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=335&d=1325042653)

Now some random Libyan has quite the prize.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Shadow99611 on January 22, 2013, 07:48:11 PM
Wow... do you even bother attempting to use those if you have them? Seems like a waste of a perfectly good AK or 1911...
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Generic Meatbag #14 on January 22, 2013, 09:50:01 PM
Who needs to actually use them when you're a Libyan dictator? Might've kept him alive longer if it wasn't just a show piece though. I have to agree, not a great use of a great gun.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Geary on January 23, 2013, 09:16:59 AM
Who needs to actually use them when you're a Libyan dictator? Might've kept him alive longer if it wasn't just a show piece though. I have to agree, not a great use of a great gun.

Considering that he had just left it behind, and was actually seen doing a bit of fighting in the last days of the conflict, I'm guessing that he never intended for it to be anything other than a show piece, nor did he feel the need to rely on it in the first place.

He was also pretty cooky, if that means anything.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Generic Meatbag #14 on January 23, 2013, 07:46:04 PM
Considering that he had just left it behind, and was actually seen doing a bit of fighting in the last days of the conflict, I'm guessing that he never intended for it to be anything other than a show piece, nor did he feel the need to rely on it in the first place.

He was also pretty cooky, if that means anything.

The stories I heard about that piece is that it was taken from Gadhafi's person when the mob got to him. Why he'd have that on him while on the run is a mystery to me. Perhaps it was in fact his personal sidearm.
Apparently he had a thing for gilded guns, a gold Dragunov was also looted from his compound.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Geary on January 25, 2013, 07:02:53 AM
The stories I heard about that piece is that it was taken from Gadhafi's person when the mob got to him. Why he'd have that on him while on the run is a mystery to me. Perhaps it was in fact his personal sidearm.
Apparently he had a thing for gilded guns, a gold Dragunov was also looted from his compound.

That'd be incorrect. It was found inside of him room when they capture his palace, which he had fled a good while before.
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: Generic Meatbag #14 on January 25, 2013, 10:38:42 PM
That'd be incorrect. It was found inside of him room when they capture his palace, which he had fled a good while before.

May I see your source on that?
Title: Re: Guns, weapons, other dismemberment options.
Post by: I am the IZOD on August 04, 2016, 01:45:25 PM
So it's been a while.  Collection has grown significantly, so figured it was a good time to update.  Top to bottom, left to right:

-US Revolver Company .22 cal pistol.  From what I've gathered, it was manufactured between 1910 and 1935
-Pietta 1851 Colt Navy Revolver, .36 cal.  Unfortunately, it is no longer in working order.
-Uberti 1847 Colt Walker, .44 cal.  I bought this as a kit and did the finishing touches on it.
-M39 Finnish Mosin Nagant, 7.62 x 54r.  This is an original made in 1944.  The Finns took the Russian Mosin and improved on the design.
-M1 Garand, .30-06.  All the metal parts are original, serial number on the receiver points to Spring 1942.  Made at the Springfield Armory
-Euroarms P1853 Enfield Rifled Musket, .58 cal.  This is mainly my Civil War reenacting piece, though I have live fired it.
-Indian-made 3rd Model Brown Bess Smoothbore Musket, .72 cal.  This was the type used during the Napoleonic Wars and the War of 1812.
-Forehand Arms Co Single Barrel Shotgun, 12 Gauge.  This one was made around the 1890's.  I only shoot Black Powder cartridges out of it, as I am concerned about the barrel's ability to handle smokeless powder.
-Stevens 311A Double Barrel Shotgun, 12 Gauge.  Made around the 1950's.
-Mossberg Pump Action Shotgun, 20 Gauge. 
-Tikka T3 Bolt Action, .30-06.